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i dont see nothing wrong with it, chances are if they get more cars and people its because the other team/series is doing something wrong. happens all the time in real life, you cant go to every race, so you gotta pick which one you wanna go to that night.

BLS_F1yer wrote:

shonuff sounds like youve saw alot of the old dtr2 legends race.maybe you should come out of retirement and see how us newer guys stack up to what those guys used to do.

there is probably about 40 guys on and off that still race dtr2 so its not like 2 series at same time slot couldnt get full fields.

the thing that gets under my skin is that some teams want people to come out and run their league but they never show to other leagues.i dont know if theyre slow or scared or what but it is racing and you cant win them all but the stiffer competition you race against always makes you better too.

some of these series that run over other peoples schedules race some of the same cars and tracks.if the teams would communicate more together maybe we could merge some dates and chassis and trim some time out for other teams to use some different chassis or tracks and so on.

just my 2 cents,not like it means much. lol

Yep just like back alot of us at IGGR and EVR loved running Pro Stocks and our Late Model and support chassis always raced Thursday nights. EVR had the Mars Pro Stocks at 7 and we started our Late Models at 8. There were times we started a few minutes late for those of us that ran the Pros at EVR. And I totally agree with you can only be as good as those you race with.

Now if 40 or so people is all thats racing nowadays its not gonna work with time slots over riding other time slot. Back then I guess they were a couple hundred around scattered thruout. Not sure of no exact number but alot you never met racing. Just knew they were other leagues out there. I know the IGGR King of the Hill 2004 there was I believe 83 drivers for that night (Oh yeah I won) That was a head to head elimination in GM Lates and it took forever to run that night.

I dont know if I could dust off the old game, doubt I could still drive them LOL Alot of us moved to NR2K3 in 2005, few still run it, we all gave rFactor a shot for a while.

wow , i remember iam4rcr3 , been a long time
this is BLS DeadBolt , formerly EVR DeadBolt

JT wrote:

wow , i remember iam4rcr3 , been a long time
this is BLS DeadBolt , formerly EVR DeadBolt

How ya been man. Yeah I saw the name Deadbolt when I first came here a few weeks back and wondered if that was same Deadbolt from back then. Yeah its been since 2005 since I raced any DTR2.

doin alright , come and gone a couple times myself form dtr2 , been back now for over a year , you shoulod dust off the old stuff and try wheelin one of these things again

current totals :

DOIT - 2 series
TXR - 3 series - going to 1
NFR - 1 series
IFRT - 1 series
ERL - 2 series
XOR - 2 series
XCR - 2 series
WFO - 1 series
TTH - 2 series ???

totals :
all : 16
-TTH : 14

general accepted race times
looking at the up coming week scheduled times - open times
Sunday 4pm , 10pm - 6pm , 8pm
Monday 9pm , 930pm - 7pm
Tuesday 8pm , 9pm
Wednesday 8pm , 10pm
Thursday 7pm , 8pm , 10pm
Friday 8pm , 10pm - 12midnight
Saturday 10pm - 6pm , 8pm , 12midnight

from that i can say that there are currently 6 time slots open
although the midnight may not be everyones cup of tea , and 6pm on a saturday may seem early

so remove those there are still 4 time slots open

if we remove 2 TXR and 2 TTH and series the week would like this
Sunday 4pm - 6pm , 8pm , 10pm
Monday 9pm , 930pm - 7pm
Tuesday 8pm , 9pm
Wednesday 8pm - 10pm
Thursday 7pm , 8pm , 10pm
Friday 8pm - 10pm , 12midnight
Saturday 10pm - 6pm , 8pm , 12midnight

from that i can say that there could be 10 open time slots
remove the midnight and 6pm sat. - 7 open time slots

also on thursday XOR is winding down thier series , whether they retain that time slot or not remains to be seen , once XOR is done at 8pm on thursdays ERL will move to 8pm , vacating the 7pm slot

and lets not forget BLS(solely sanctioned series) and VLR have not released any schedules for 2011 , that being said - tradtionally Wednesday is BLS at 9pm , and Sunday is VLR at 8pm

i got bored this morning , so i figured i take another look at this

sometimes i never stop thinking

now lets look at this a different way
ERL has come out in 2011 with basically a year long schedule

supposing more teams/leagues/series followed suit with the year long idea

.....add in this

(please correct me if im wrong)
teams that have been around for a while
Doit(formerly run as EVR)
VLR
WFO
NFR
XCR

relatively new teams/leagues/series
BLS
XOR
TXR
TTH
IFRT
ERL
WOO

now back to the year long thought
what if all teams/leagues/series that have been around for awhile ran a year long schedule?
would that not then cement that time slot?
leaving the newer/younger teams/leagues/series to run the customary 10-12 week short schedules and allow for more movement of times between them

ya it takes a commiment to run a year long deal , but in real life wouldnt the year long deal equate to WoO or Lucas type tour/schedule , and the short term deals would be more like a carolina clash , deery brothers , allstar late models type of deal

and this would also allow for the year long type teams to create smaller type of tours for a secondary deal - like how Doit has thier major tour on saturdays and thier secondary tour on thursdays

again just thinking

BLS is currently working on a 1 or 2 track season kinda like a weekend warrior deal.its fun to race at different tracks each week for a series but i think it could possibly be more competitive having only 2 tracks for everyone to focus on.

BLS_F1yer wrote:

BLS is currently working on a 1 or 2 track season kinda like a weekend warrior deal.its fun to race at different tracks each week for a series but i think it could possibly be more competitive having only 2 tracks for everyone to focus on.

I have ran 2 series that did this and both were big hits. One league was SOL that IGGR_SCH ran, ran Super Lates and WoO at I believe Harrison all season alternating chassis every week. Then Danno had a league called Outkast that ran 2 tracks Wayne Co and one other with WoO all season. Kept it competitive all season. It was as me and Danno and a few others was moving to NR2K3 it kept us from having to work on sets non stop for one race because we didnt have the time due to running nascar most of the week. Now all this was 6 years ago so things may have changed.

Thats the thing Rick, NFR has completely quit DTR2 on account of car count being @ 5 per week. This seems to be happening at almost all of the league events! It's not a very fun night when only 5 drivers compete.

i think nfr was car count and monnie for servers plus thay going more rf i think thear car counts were low eaven when wfo wesent running

Of course thats what i'm talking about when you schedule a league race on top of another leagues races or if its to close to the same time you are going to loose some cars and ultimatlely one of the teams will retire their lage races.
Here is a pic of what I call a time slot that each team should own. I think that some of the times are a little to close but can be adjusted if you guys think time slot owning should be inforced.

Ok,I'll go ahead and let everybody know..most everybody on MY team either races in real like or helps on cars on the weekends and since racing season is startin back up in lil less than a month for some of us at the local track..and see'n that I actually race and our track start Feb,12th..TXR will keep our time slot at 11est on FRIDAYS..we'll just be running one series from now on cuz i wont have the time with running more AND trying to keep up with my hobby stock..So IF we want to get together MAYBE and talk about which team can have a permanent time slot..thats fine with me..and if we do..TXR will go ahead and take 11est on fridays.

Here is a more up to date chart, off Doit website.
www.doitracing.com/Doitschedule.html
I have been hearing a lot about time slot owning and most every driver likes the idea.
lets just say that if we only had 1 dtr server we would be owning time slots for that server to hold races on. the same thing applies to each team owning there time slot to encorage more drivers to attend before or after their league race. I'm not sure if it matters to most team owners but it matters to the drivers that I have talked to.

Karl I like the Idea but I think if we was to do this then some people would think the "big boys" are trying to muscle everyone around...A completly fair way to do it is to get everyone to agree to meet 1st and then stick everyone's name in the randomizer...and the 1st team up could have 1st time slot option...Now with that excell spreadsheet you sent me it could be done very easily and I would be willing to hook up a webcam for everyone to view if you wanted me to randomize it so nobody would think there was any foul play involved...let me know what you guys think

I like the idea of where this is going but I do know that some teams use their timeslot because thats when they can race so in reality I dont think this would really ever work...but Im game for anything...On the flip side I would love to be able to go race any night of the week with it alittle more spread out

i like the idea you have ice , but i think that would take alot of coordinating whith everyone involved , and with people already having scheduled seasons - that would be a big shake up for some(possibly) -- is we were to all agree to that sort of random time slot pick system , i would think it would be best worked and applied when all teams are in between thier respective seasons , a slow point in scheduling , like at years end??

Sry Felles,
I can't see Random time sloting working for anyone. The feed back I have been getting from drivers is just the opposite, others have told me they want a more uniformed schedule where as the racing times are not the same so they can attend more shows. For me thats not a concern, I only have time for a few.
But this game is about the driver/players so Im willing to help accommodate them if we can, Time Slot Owning is what we have been doing, because the bigger teams respect each others racing times. Its just the newer Teams dont ask or care and just schedule on top of another teams time slot. My effort here is just to make public all the teams Time Slots to prevent doubling on exact days and hours of a league races to help all the teams have more cars and give drivers a chance to attend more shows. If you have two Shows at the same hour some league will be very disapointed after 10 shows and feel like they waisted there time and money for a no show (severs, Vent expenses,website, etc.).
And in the future WDS (Gates) is planing a bunch of races and Their Shedule will affect more than one league if we don't lock these slots down.. Just Talking here JMO

well , im gonna go ahead and say , let everyone schedule thier own series when ever they want , if they get low counts to bad so sad , its thier fault , as a driver ill race when and where i want for what ever reason , not just to add numbers to someones league