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and to the drivers that said run it.....SMH

It was a joke that they wouldn't give all the VLR guys just one freakin minute to get over there!!! But thanks for trying for us Jmac pretty sad can't even wait one minute

i didn't know about it until after the heat races when i went in chat to post results i seen it does kinda suck,BUT in the same sentence shock....there are many race series in real life that have adopted a rule of "if you don't pack the track and run hot laps you don't race,PERIOD" i have seen 10+ cars turned away because of this rule at real life tracks....i know this isn't real life,but our packing the track would be the randomizer....is goat shooting for a realistic rules series or what?i don't know what really happened i just know you were pissed...

The fact that they wouldn't wait till 10:01 for us to even finish says a lot in my opinion. Their first season running on Sunday nights and they literally won't wait one minute for us to all get over there and race. They hadn't even finished putting the heat lineups out yet and goat wouldn't even let us tag one!

I seen BLS wait 15 minutes every night to wait for your series to finish but ERL goes in on Sunday nights where we've been this whole time and Goat won't even give us one minute to get there and race. We had to run 4 heats, 2 C Mains, 20 lap B, and 75 lap A Main and we got done in an hour only to be turned away for getting in vent at 10:01!! Like I told Goat it's almost like he purposefully tried to get the lineups out before we could all get over there because our race ended right at 10:00. BW got there at 10:00 and they let him tag a heat so why not the other 5 or 6 that showed up? And they don't even use a randomizer at ERL.

Whoever voted not to wait for VLR knowing that we would be done right around 10:00 on the dot based on how quick the B Mains finished was just looking for a cheap win since they didn't make the VLR feature. And thanks J-Mac and BBS for suggesting that ERL wait a couple minutes for us to be done, too bad people were worried about getting an easy win instead of racing with more guys

He said people would get mad if they waited for VLR to finish. Like really people are gonna go crazy because lineups were out at 10:02 instead of 10:01?!?!

I promote ERL every night at VLR and then they turn half our guys away for getting there at 10:00 or 10:01. Ridiculous but I won't promote it anymore if they don't want people to even race there

It's a good thing you said it, I don't like typing that much.

First of all yes ERL does use a randomizer! I made the rule that 10 pm the people in our vent would be locked in to our race. Also made the rule if you do not race a heat you will not race a feature. Shock, Ralphy, Brad, 45 showed at 10:01 I had done did the randomizer and had posted heat 1 and was typing heat 2 when they come in. I did tell them they could not race, might have been a stupid thing over 1 minute but a rule is a rule. BW and Fast Eddie come at 9:59 according to my clock on my computer, they raced last night. Shock I seriously do not think, no one was saying hurry up and race so VLR guys can not race cause if they come they will win. Yes you are better then me as are the rest of the VLR guys but I will race with you guys any day of the week. All you can do is beat me. So with that said if you do not won't to promote our race anymore don't! If people wants to race ERL they will if not they won't. Its funny that the only person I have had any problem with is Shock over the ERL series this year. Shock is the guy who was running VLR at 7:30 pm and moved to 8:30 pm after we had released our schedule. So once again I did not change VLR time so I see it is your fault if you do not get done in enough time to race ERL. Yes I could have waited 1 minute last night for sure. But if I waited last night, then I would have to wait every week for someone. Before you know it we wouldn't ever get a race in for waiting. The real problem is Shock wants to win another championship I guess at ERL and get more wins. If that is the problem I will put on our site that you are the 2012 champion and you won every night. Also if anyone else does not like our rules please let me know!

It's BS man. And I thought the heats were lined up by reverse points, that's what I was told anyway.

I have only won like 3 championships ever since I started racing so if you think I care about championships you're wrong. I just wanted to fkn race a race and have fun like everyone else you let race. I don't care where I finish I just wanted to race. Pretty sure I was out of the points anyway to begin with. If I cared about points I would have raced XCR Friday night since I was leading the points there and I probably ain't now but I had no desire to race Friday.

It's the fact that you won't wait 1 minute for us to finish even though I asked J-MAC to see if you'd wait up to 10 minutes for us to finish. Well we didn't even need but one minute and you rushed things so quick that we couldn't make it at 10:01. Like I said I wasn't thinking of your series that started in April in early February when we started racing at 8:30. I was still under the impression in February that you were racing on Friday nights. I don't care about winning or championships I just thought you'd be nice enough to wait one minute so we could make our way over to your race!! It's bad that you wouldn't let us race when you hadn't even finished putting out the heats. You could have at least let us tag one. Every other league would have given a 5 minute leeway at least if they were starting directly after another series to give them at least a LITTLE time to finish. You know I don't practice for any of your races or anything I just show up to race and have fun. If I cared about where I am in points (I have no clue where I am) or about winning then I would try to practice some through the week for it. I just wanted to race like the five other people that showed up at 10:01 and were asked to go home.

The way I see it is if VLR is willing to do w/e it takes to try and get their show over on a timely manner so as not to run into ERL's time slot then the least ERL could do is give the drivers in the VLR "A" Main the benefit of the doubt and extend enough courtesy to wait a few extra minutes on them. ERL all of a sudden wants everyone to be at thier show at 10 sharp and not a minute late or you dont get to race,...and what about my series? We start at 11 and we have to wait on ERL to get finished or else some of the midnight madness regulars wont make it,and I dont see Goat addressing that issue! Not once have I heard an apologie for cutting into my time slot or even word of him trying to hurry up his show so as not to cut into my time slot. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander and it should work both ways. You want someone to respect your wishes but you dont want to respect someone elses? wtf is up with that?

ERL_Goat wrote: First of all yes ERL does use a randomizer! I made the rule that 10 pm the people in our vent would be locked in to our race. Also made the rule if you do not race a heat you will not race a feature. Shock, Ralphy, Brad, 45 showed at 10:01 I had done did the randomizer and had posted heat 1 and was typing heat 2 when they come in. I did tell them they could not race, might have been a stupid thing over 1 minute but a rule is a rule. BW and Fast Eddie come at 9:59 according to my clock on my computer, they raced last night. Shock I seriously do not think, no one was saying hurry up and race so VLR guys can not race cause if they come they will win. Yes you are better then me as are the rest of the VLR guys but I will race with you guys any day of the week. All you can do is beat me. So with that said if you do not won't to promote our race anymore don't! If people wants to race ERL they will if not they won't. Its funny that the only person I have had any problem with is Shock over the ERL series this year. Shock is the guy who was running VLR at 7:30 pm and moved to 8:30 pm after we had released our schedule. So once again I did not change VLR time so I see it is your fault if you do not get done in enough time to race ERL. Yes I could have waited 1 minute last night for sure. But if I waited last night, then I would have to wait every week for someone. Before you know it we wouldn't ever get a race in for waiting. The real problem is Shock wants to win another championship I guess at ERL and get more wins. If that is the problem I will put on our site that you are the 2012 champion and you won every night. Also if anyone else does not like our rules please let me know!

VLR has owned Sunday nights for as long as I can remember. You just felt like being a (bleep) and keep anybody fast out. I would naturally assume that you will no longer have to worry about late arrivals, or arrivals at all. (bleep)weed stuff like this will make people not run your league. As far as I am concerned, SRF is a run better then your circus, and i have never even tried to run your race, or knew it existed, or cared really to be honest.....

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Lazy3 wrote: The way I see it is if VLR is willing to do w/e it takes to try and get their show over on a timely manner so as not to run into ERL's time slot then the least ERL could do is give the drivers in the VLR "A" Main the benefit of the doubt and extend enough courtesy to wait a few extra minutes on them. ERL all of a sudden wants everyone to be at thier show at 10 sharp and not a minute late or you dont get to race,...and what about my series? We start at 11 and we have to wait on ERL to get finished or else some of the midnight madness regulars wont make it,and I dont see Goat addressing that issue! Not once have I heard an apologie for cutting into my time slot or even word of him trying to hurry up his show so as not to cut into my time slot. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander and it should work both ways. You want someone to respect your wishes but you dont want to respect someone elses? wtf is up with that?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I only remember overflowing into your time slot once, maybe twice....I don't think we took all that long last night even though there were some issues I'm not a big fan of....

ERL_J-MAC wrote:

Lazy3 wrote: The way I see it is if VLR is willing to do w/e it takes to try and get their show over on a timely manner so as not to run into ERL's time slot then the least ERL could do is give the drivers in the VLR "A" Main the benefit of the doubt and extend enough courtesy to wait a few extra minutes on them. ERL all of a sudden wants everyone to be at thier show at 10 sharp and not a minute late or you dont get to race,...and what about my series? We start at 11 and we have to wait on ERL to get finished or else some of the midnight madness regulars wont make it,and I dont see Goat addressing that issue! Not once have I heard an apologie for cutting into my time slot or even word of him trying to hurry up his show so as not to cut into my time slot. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander and it should work both ways. You want someone to respect your wishes but you dont want to respect someone elses? wtf is up with that?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I only remember overflowing into your time slot once, maybe twice....I don't think we took all that long last night even though there were some issues I'm not a big fan of....

Ok I'm correcting you Brother J-man.....Everyrace ERL has ran @ 10:00pm both the late models and the corr trucks have had us waiting for them to finish,with the exception of one I know of,on the contrary,just the oppisite of your analogy.

Lazy3 wrote:

ERL_J-MAC wrote:

Lazy3 wrote: The way I see it is if VLR is willing to do w/e it takes to try and get their show over on a timely manner so as not to run into ERL's time slot then the least ERL could do is give the drivers in the VLR "A" Main the benefit of the doubt and extend enough courtesy to wait a few extra minutes on them. ERL all of a sudden wants everyone to be at thier show at 10 sharp and not a minute late or you dont get to race,...and what about my series? We start at 11 and we have to wait on ERL to get finished or else some of the midnight madness regulars wont make it,and I dont see Goat addressing that issue! Not once have I heard an apologie for cutting into my time slot or even word of him trying to hurry up his show so as not to cut into my time slot. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander and it should work both ways. You want someone to respect your wishes but you dont want to respect someone elses? wtf is up with that?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I only remember overflowing into your time slot once, maybe twice....I don't think we took all that long last night even though there were some issues I'm not a big fan of....

Ok I'm correcting you Brother J-man.....Everyrace ERL has ran @ 10:00pm both the late models and the corr trucks have had us waiting for them to finish,with the exception of one I know of,on the contrary,just the oppisite of your analogy.

Ok, looking back at it now, I've been to 3 of the Sunday Night ERL races. There have been 4. I missed one, and since this is the series in the direct concern, my files show we ran over for 2 of the 3 shows I was at. With the series I'm focusing on, we ran over into your timeslot twice that I have proof of. Which goes with what I said. The Corr truck series was a different promoter. (I believe Turbo might have been in charge of that.) So with the information I have, What I said is correct. I don't know of how long the race I missed went. I apologize for any direct issues between me and you over this. The information that I know as fact doesn't cover the entire series.

First of all Dizzle I could care less what the fuck you think, jackass! Shock as I said last night we start at 10 pm, I won't to get our race over with as soon as we can get it over with. Shock if it does not matter about the points then why such the fit last night as you said "there is no reason running it now, I can not win the points". Shock get over it see you Sunday! Lazy3 I am pretty sure the name of your series is Midnight Madness where I come from Midnight is 12:00 am not 11:00 pm. With that said I think NLMS run over one time and you waited 8 to 10 minutes on the regular 11:00 madness series drivers. We did tell you we was sorry and you was the one who said don't worry we are always late starting. Turbo's Corr series might have ran over a few times, I am pretty sure the same thing was said do not worry about it, we are always late. So with all that said if anyone does not like our rules or does not like our series. You do not have to race ERL, I am a grown man that has a family, and I am not going to get on this computer and argue over fucking online racing.

ERL_J-MAC wrote:

Lazy3 wrote:

ERL_J-MAC wrote:

Lazy3 wrote: The way I see it is if VLR is willing to do w/e it takes to try and get their show over on a timely manner so as not to run into ERL's time slot then the least ERL could do is give the drivers in the VLR "A" Main the benefit of the doubt and extend enough courtesy to wait a few extra minutes on them. ERL all of a sudden wants everyone to be at thier show at 10 sharp and not a minute late or you dont get to race,...and what about my series? We start at 11 and we have to wait on ERL to get finished or else some of the midnight madness regulars wont make it,and I dont see Goat addressing that issue! Not once have I heard an apologie for cutting into my time slot or even word of him trying to hurry up his show so as not to cut into my time slot. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander and it should work both ways. You want someone to respect your wishes but you dont want to respect someone elses? wtf is up with that?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I only remember overflowing into your time slot once, maybe twice....I don't think we took all that long last night even though there were some issues I'm not a big fan of....

Ok I'm correcting you Brother J-man.....Everyrace ERL has ran @ 10:00pm both the late models and the corr trucks have had us waiting for them to finish,with the exception of one I know of,on the contrary,just the oppisite of your analogy.

Ok, looking back at it now, I've been to 3 of the Sunday Night ERL races. There have been 4. I missed one, and since this is the series in the direct concern, my files show we ran over for 2 of the 3 shows I was at. With the series I'm focusing on, we ran over into your timeslot twice that I have proof of. Which goes with what I said. The Corr truck series was a different promoter. (I believe Turbo might have been in charge of that.) So with the information I have, What I said is correct. I don't know of how long the race I missed went. I apologize for any direct issues between me and you over this. The information that I know as fact doesn't cover the entire series.

J-Man....you know you have no need to apologies to me for anything! There are no direct or in-direct issues with you and I.There never has been and I suspect there never will be,and thats due simply to the fact that you conduct your self like a gentleman and have always been a class act! I have much respect for you J-Mac and think you are one of the best guys in this game. As has been stated before.."Its not wether you win or loose but rather how you play the game" its a shame everyone cant be as respectful as you are J-Man!

ERL_Goat wrote: First of all Dizzle I could care less what the (bleep) you think, jackass! Shock as I said last night we start at 10 pm, I won't to get our race over with as soon as we can get it over with. Shock if it does not matter about the points then why such the fit last night as you said "there is no reason running it now, I can not win the points". Shock get over it see you Sunday! Lazy3 I am pretty sure the name of your series is Midnight Madness where I come from Midnight is 12:00 am not 11:00 pm. With that said I think NLMS run over one time and you waited 8 to 10 minutes on the regular 11:00 madness series drivers. We did tell you we was sorry and you was the one who said don't worry we are always late starting. Turbo's Corr series might have ran over a few times, I am pretty sure the same thing was said do not worry about it, we are always late. So with all that said if anyone does not like our rules or does not like our series. You do not have to race ERL, I am a grown man that has a family, and I am not going to get on this computer and argue over (bleep)ing online racing.

The don't (bleep)ing keep answering, and coming back. It takes two to tango bitch. Just an FYI when Lazy runs his series int's midnight somewhere in the (bleep)in ocean (bleep)head.

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ERL_Goat wrote: First of all Dizzle I could care less what the (bleep) you think, jackass! Shock as I said last night we start at 10 pm, I won't to get our race over with as soon as we can get it over with. Shock if it does not matter about the points then why such the fit last night as you said "there is no reason running it now, I can not win the points". Shock get over it see you Sunday! Lazy3 I am pretty sure the name of your series is Midnight Madness where I come from Midnight is 12:00 am not 11:00 pm. With that said I think NLMS run over one time and you waited 8 to 10 minutes on the regular 11:00 madness series drivers. We did tell you we was sorry and you was the one who said don't worry we are always late starting. Turbo's Corr series might have ran over a few times, I am pretty sure the same thing was said do not worry about it, we are always late. So with all that said if anyone does not like our rules or does not like our series. You do not have to race ERL, I am a grown man that has a family, and I am not going to get on this computer and argue over (bleep)ing online racing.

Um no that's not what I said so don't make up quotes because I'd never say something like that. And I'm not racing Sunday. This is all I said about your points

Howard Weaver: BLS waited 15 minutes every race for another league to finish, and u guys wouldnt wait for one minute after we ran a huge show in less than an hour, we did all we could only to get turned away and knocked ppl out of the points

I wasn't talking about me, but Brad, Ralphy, and Mav who were high in points. I already missed like 2 races so I knew I wasn't in points. I was speaking for everyone that got there at 10:01, not myself. That makes us look bad that they feel like they have to decide which series to race since you were unwilling to even wait one minute for us to finish and took out half your top point contenders

And I helped you with your Joomla stuff this week to get a site working and in return you wouldn't even wait one minute for us to get to your vent...sad

VLR_Shock wrote: And I helped you with your Joomla stuff this week to get a site working and in return you wouldn't even wait one minute for us to get to your vent...sad

Very valid point their VLR_Shock.

ERL_Goat wrote: First of all Dizzle I could care less what the (bleep) you think, jackass! Shock as I said last night we start at 10 pm, I won't to get our race over with as soon as we can get it over with. Shock if it does not matter about the points then why such the fit last night as you said "there is no reason running it now, I can not win the points". Shock get over it see you Sunday! Lazy3 I am pretty sure the name of your series is Midnight Madness where I come from Midnight is 12:00 am not 11:00 pm. With that said I think NLMS run over one time and you waited 8 to 10 minutes on the regular 11:00 madness series drivers. We did tell you we was sorry and you was the one who said don't worry we are always late starting. Turbo's Corr series might have ran over a few times, I am pretty sure the same thing was said do not worry about it, we are always late. So with all that said if anyone does not like our rules or does not like our series. You do not have to race ERL, I am a grown man that has a family, and I am not going to get on this computer and argue over (bleep)ing online racing.

Goat....I am not worried about it! You aint ever heard me bitchin! We do try and run a very relaxed series. Also no matter where you come from 11:00 pm is the beginning of the midnight hour and the Midnight Madness Series takes place during the midnight hour! I apologise if you took my post as "bitching" rather than just my putting my 2 cents in on the issue. Personally I could care less wtf you do man,however I was just bringing to your attention that what comes around goes around and fair is fair,if your gonna press people to cater to your demands then you should respect others and extend them the same courtesy is all I'm saying.If you demand people be at your show dead on time then you should make sure that any there can make the next show dead on time regardless of what time they actually do start.Just because I'm nice enough to not get upset and am willing to wait for you to get done is no reason to take advantage of my generosity and not worrie wether or not your show runs over.I never thought I'd ever be having convo's like this with you man because you always had my respect as one of the nicest guys in the game,but telling people to go home and they cant race after they come to your show 1 freakin min. late is just rediculous man.